Posted On: August 13, 2023

For a country like the United States to be open about aircrafts in its air space that the military can do nothing about it is a big deal.

Such approach means , if not a hoax, that either one or the statement is true :.

1) these aircrafts are indeed human made but not by the USA, which is the least probable situation.

A country like the usa which is heavily dependent on its military and war image can't possible make a statement that aircrafts, which could be made by a foreign nation, are violating its airspace and they can only stand and watch .

2) the aircrafts are man made and are a products of the USA. 

This imo is the most probable scenario.

The USA have made a new class of tech, probably acquired after or during WW2.

The USA doesnt want the tech normalised or for other nations to run their own programs, so they kind of made this situation where the tech exists but isn't human made.

This allows for a versatile use of the tech, specially if we entertain the "fake alien invasion" theory which have been discussed at the UN sometime in the last decade.

3) The aircrafts and aliens are real.

This I don't believe. Solely because of the sheer amount of unanswered questions that rises.

Such scenario will imply that:.

aliens have no interest in our planet, otherwise, flying small ships here and there in places that hold no interests isn't the way to go.

aliens have interest in our planet , but are afriad of human reaction if their existance is made visible to the specie.

This i strongly doubt, if small ships are giving that hard of a time to the military, imagine bigger spaceships with advanced weapons.

aliens have made a deal with humans. If so, then Why?.

It would imply that humans have enough science available to sit in a negotiation table which isnt true in this context.

Also the USA going to other countries like Japan and striking a military agreement about sharing ufo information doesn't support this theory.

Another thing I forgot that support my second point.

There have been a ufo contact in the military during a military drill (it was on a Joe rogan podcast , it was with a woman that's all I remmeber).

Anyhow , during the drill, the aircraft appeared, toyed with the military fighter jets, then at the end, it went straight to the planned end point for the drill.

Which either means they could simulate the drill and figure out where the drill will take end, or, which is more probable, whoever controlled the aircrafts knew about the drill and how it would be taken out .

Post from user Sad-Consideration603 at at reddit.

Comments:

Your premises ignore that the UAPs demonstrate performance that we cant duplicate. As a species.

The US did not make a drone that can hover for hours, dive under the ocean, then fly at hypersonic speeds in the atmosphere, then go into space.

The TicTac, is real, has eyewitnesses, radar data, thermal data, (a whole battlegroup was monitering it) and has been publicly released, and admitted to, by the pentagon, nytimes, congressional hearings.

It moves through the atmosphere with zero thermal emissions, and no aerodynamic control surfaces, at speeds that make the Darkstar plane from Topgun Maverick look slow, all without making a sonic boom.

That means its propulsion comes from a source that requires our understanding of physics to change.

If its a hoax, to what end?.

To get the DOD to recieve more funding?.

Because if thats the case, theyre getting an IG audit for the trouble, because the bulk of Gruschs testimony is that the pentagon is basically laundering money.

(This hoax also requires the cooperation of civilian pilots, the military, the media, and thousands of witnesses going back before WW2) .

And frankly, hoax or not, either way the result needs to be the same, full disclosure by the pentagon where the trillions of dollars have gone.

Because they either have alien craft, or have spent tons of money trying to lie to the american public about alien craft.

Comment from user 464tusker at at reddit.

Posted On: August 13, 2023

For a country like the United States to be open about aircrafts in its air space that the military can do nothing about it is a big deal.

Such approach means , if not a hoax, that either one or the statement is true :.

1) these aircrafts are indeed human made but not by the USA, which is the least probable situation.

A country like the usa which is heavily dependent on its military and war image can't possible make a statement that aircrafts, which could be made by a foreign nation, are violating its airspace and they can only stand and watch .

2) the aircrafts are man made and are a products of the USA. 

This imo is the most probable scenario.

The USA have made a new class of tech, probably acquired after or during WW2.

The USA doesnt want the tech normalised or for other nations to run their own programs, so they kind of made this situation where the tech exists but isn't human made.

This allows for a versatile use of the tech, specially if we entertain the "fake alien invasion" theory which have been discussed at the UN sometime in the last decade.

3) The aircrafts and aliens are real.

This I don't believe. Solely because of the sheer amount of unanswered questions that rises.

Such scenario will imply that:.

aliens have no interest in our planet, otherwise, flying small ships here and there in places that hold no interests isn't the way to go.

aliens have interest in our planet , but are afriad of human reaction if their existance is made visible to the specie.

This i strongly doubt, if small ships are giving that hard of a time to the military, imagine bigger spaceships with advanced weapons.

aliens have made a deal with humans. If so, then Why?.

It would imply that humans have enough science available to sit in a negotiation table which isnt true in this context.

Also the USA going to other countries like Japan and striking a military agreement about sharing ufo information doesn't support this theory.

Another thing I forgot that support my second point.

There have been a ufo contact in the military during a military drill (it was on a Joe rogan podcast , it was with a woman that's all I remmeber).

Anyhow , during the drill, the aircraft appeared, toyed with the military fighter jets, then at the end, it went straight to the planned end point for the drill.

Which either means they could simulate the drill and figure out where the drill will take end, or, which is more probable, whoever controlled the aircrafts knew about the drill and how it would be taken out .

Post from user Sad-Consideration603 at at reddit.

Comments:

Your premises ignore that the UAPs demonstrate performance that we cant duplicate. As a species.

The US did not make a drone that can hover for hours, dive under the ocean, then fly at hypersonic speeds in the atmosphere, then go into space.

The TicTac, is real, has eyewitnesses, radar data, thermal data, (a whole battlegroup was monitering it) and has been publicly released, and admitted to, by the pentagon, nytimes, congressional hearings.

It moves through the atmosphere with zero thermal emissions, and no aerodynamic control surfaces, at speeds that make the Darkstar plane from Topgun Maverick look slow, all without making a sonic boom.

That means its propulsion comes from a source that requires our understanding of physics to change.

If its a hoax, to what end?.

To get the DOD to recieve more funding?.

Because if thats the case, theyre getting an IG audit for the trouble, because the bulk of Gruschs testimony is that the pentagon is basically laundering money.

(This hoax also requires the cooperation of civilian pilots, the military, the media, and thousands of witnesses going back before WW2) .

And frankly, hoax or not, either way the result needs to be the same, full disclosure by the pentagon where the trillions of dollars have gone.

Because they either have alien craft, or have spent tons of money trying to lie to the american public about alien craft.

Comment from user 464tusker at at reddit.