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Posted On: March 4, 2023

I have been such a die hard believer ever since I was introduced to Bob lazar through the JRE podcast. “I want to believe” is so true because it seems like all we have is anticdotal evidence.


With the government putting this dog and pony show on with these recent “ufo” Chinese balloons in the news lately I don't know what to believe.


I can see 2 options and I really struggle with both of them and want to see discussion about them.


Is that there is a coming war between the USA and the east. Russia, whom america is already fighting via Ukraine, and China, whom is definitely a threat to America and Taiwan is 1000% an up and coming conflict that I believe America/NATO is willing to go to war with over semiconductors,,, aka the power of the future… look at what we did in Iraq/Afghanistan, “wmd” aka oil lol.


There's absolutely no way we, america, are going to allow China to have Taiwan in my view.


Doesn't it make sense that america would puff up there chest and play mind games and say we have ufos to try and scare the opposition?


When I hear Eric Weinstein talk about these real issues it seems fake, like we are just puffing our chest out and neither confirming nor denying what america has, but we “know” the top physicists are not working on it.


Option 2. It's real, it's at the highest level of secrecy. When I look at Richard Doty ruining lives, gaslighting all in the name to obfuscate the issue, muddy the waters, and make anyone look like a kook that believes in the ufo subject.. the way that academia and the government treats ufos seems so odd… .


I look at how much america spends on black budget projects, waaaay more then any other country… but we have such significant weaknesses? Cheap 30k balloons that can travel at a decent speed with no evidential signs of propulsion ? It's so strange.


What is the best EVIDENCE? because I keep coming back to see what's the best? But it seems like all we have is eye witness testimony.


I go back to ancient times and see “evidence” but know that the mind will fill in the blanks with what you WANT to believe.


The gov puffs there chest out saying we have ufos to scare China, Russia but it's just actually ballon's.


Or we have real ufos and want to muddy the waters as much as possible so no one's knows what we actually have.


Post from user Kawsiat at UFOs at reddit.com.


Comment:

Option 1 doesnt make much sense to me.


Its basically saying, Hey China, maybe we have super-duper advanced tech. Were not claiming its ours though, but it has to be, right? wink wink, who else could it be, right?


Now, imagine if you were China, and you see this attempt at poker. The logic would go: .


If they really had this stuff, they would be over here, harrasing us, and pretending its not them. Not dancing around over there and making us guess.


Also, geo-politically, its America doing all the provocations, with things that directly or indirectly undermine the One-China policy. China had a big military exercise not for nothing, but in direct response to a Pelosi visit, for instance. America isnt warning China away. America actively seeks war.


So I dont believe in Option 1. That doesnt make sense. You dont have to do that stuff when its easier to just not poke the panda. You dont visit Taiwan, sanction China, Semi-Conductor wars, and then go wink, wink I may have new toys, please dont fight me. That would be hilarious. Youd have completely crazy people running the show.


Comment from user Bekqifyre at UFOs at reddit.com.



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Posted On: March 4, 2023

I have been such a die hard believer ever since I was introduced to Bob lazar through the JRE podcast. “I want to believe” is so true because it seems like all we have is anticdotal evidence.


With the government putting this dog and pony show on with these recent “ufo” Chinese balloons in the news lately I don't know what to believe.


I can see 2 options and I really struggle with both of them and want to see discussion about them.


Is that there is a coming war between the USA and the east. Russia, whom america is already fighting via Ukraine, and China, whom is definitely a threat to America and Taiwan is 1000% an up and coming conflict that I believe America/NATO is willing to go to war with over semiconductors,,, aka the power of the future… look at what we did in Iraq/Afghanistan, “wmd” aka oil lol.


There's absolutely no way we, america, are going to allow China to have Taiwan in my view.


Doesn't it make sense that america would puff up there chest and play mind games and say we have ufos to try and scare the opposition?


When I hear Eric Weinstein talk about these real issues it seems fake, like we are just puffing our chest out and neither confirming nor denying what america has, but we “know” the top physicists are not working on it.


Option 2. It's real, it's at the highest level of secrecy. When I look at Richard Doty ruining lives, gaslighting all in the name to obfuscate the issue, muddy the waters, and make anyone look like a kook that believes in the ufo subject.. the way that academia and the government treats ufos seems so odd… .


I look at how much america spends on black budget projects, waaaay more then any other country… but we have such significant weaknesses? Cheap 30k balloons that can travel at a decent speed with no evidential signs of propulsion ? It's so strange.


What is the best EVIDENCE? because I keep coming back to see what's the best? But it seems like all we have is eye witness testimony.


I go back to ancient times and see “evidence” but know that the mind will fill in the blanks with what you WANT to believe.


The gov puffs there chest out saying we have ufos to scare China, Russia but it's just actually ballon's.


Or we have real ufos and want to muddy the waters as much as possible so no one's knows what we actually have.


Post from user Kawsiat at UFOs at reddit.com.


Comment:

Option 1 doesnt make much sense to me.


Its basically saying, Hey China, maybe we have super-duper advanced tech. Were not claiming its ours though, but it has to be, right? wink wink, who else could it be, right?


Now, imagine if you were China, and you see this attempt at poker. The logic would go: .


If they really had this stuff, they would be over here, harrasing us, and pretending its not them. Not dancing around over there and making us guess.


Also, geo-politically, its America doing all the provocations, with things that directly or indirectly undermine the One-China policy. China had a big military exercise not for nothing, but in direct response to a Pelosi visit, for instance. America isnt warning China away. America actively seeks war.


So I dont believe in Option 1. That doesnt make sense. You dont have to do that stuff when its easier to just not poke the panda. You dont visit Taiwan, sanction China, Semi-Conductor wars, and then go wink, wink I may have new toys, please dont fight me. That would be hilarious. Youd have completely crazy people running the show.


Comment from user Bekqifyre at UFOs at reddit.com.



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