Posted On: April 27, 2023

The following video purportedly shows an alien corpse discovered in Quebec in 1992.

At 0:43 it looks like an EBE "bandaged" in a manner described in the Guy Hottel memo.

Is this genuine? If it were a hoax I would not expect the faces of the people involved to be so clearly visible.

Here is an English translation of the French text in the YouTube comments:.

(1/3) Text updated by survey progress on March 20, 2020 .

In the winter of 1992, while I was living in Montreal (Quebec/Canada), a friend of my ex-roommate came to our apartment to show us some strange pictures. The pictures showed that a creature of unknown origin - an extraterrestrial biological entity (E.B.E.), and apparently lifeless, had been found by a snowmobiler (or maybe two) in a field or a woodland not far from the road. .

We immediately asked this friend where he got the pictures. He told us that they belonged to his cousin in the Red River area, in L'Annonciation, Quebec. .

Then, if I remember correctly, he told us that when the body was found in the snow, the snowmobiler (or one of the snowmobilers) went to get his camera (possibly a 35 mm). Note here that if there were two snowmobilers, by the absence of one of them on the photos, we have no proof of his presence; unless he remained the only photographer. .

However, other witnesses, obviously the two men (both smokers) that can be seen in the photos, also went to the discovery site with a car. .

Showing us one of the photos in particular, the friend in question had explained to us that the witnesses had to pass a cable or a rope under the arms of the biological entity, so that, with the help of a branch, they could lift it without touching it. It was possibly by precaution not to leave their prints or by fear of disease. We could suppose here that it had perhaps to give off a certain odor, considering that it does not look completely frozen. From the photos, the cable or rope had obviously been attached to trees. .

Intrigued, we immediately asked him what they did with the body? And he explained to us that "being late in the evening - and probably unaware of the importance of the matter - the witnesses did not dare to take the body back with them, and when they returned the next day, it was gone. The witnesses therefore assumed that a coyote or other wild animal had probably found the body and brought it with it to feast on. On the face of it, this is questionable, but above all, irresponsible behavior. Considering that this kind of monumental error is often observed among non-scientists, it was not too surprising. .

Afterwards, we asked him what he was going to do with these photos? And he answered that he was going to try to meet someone in the field of ufology, in order to try to solve this mystery. Anyway, before he left, I quickly grabbed my video camera and filmed one by one the pictures in question. .

A story in suspension .

A few weeks later, this friend called us back and told us that he had gone to show the photos to a person in the field of ufology - if my memory is correct, it was a certain Claude Mac Duff (1946-2001), author of the book "Le procès des soucoupe volantes" (éditions Québec/Amérique, 1975). The latter simply told him that it was not the first time that he had seen photos of this kind of entity, and that he therefore advised him not to try to make money with this story, or to waste time broadcasting it to the public, because he would certainly be discredited and ridiculed. It must be said here, incidentally, that during the investigation I learned that in the face of the obvious absence of satisfactory proof of the materiality of UFOs and extraterrestrial life, in the early 1980s, Mac Duff had joined the Quebec Skeptics, in which he collaborated for the rest of his life. It is therefore not surprising that his conclusion was not preceded by an investigation of the witnesses of the time. It is a pity, because it ruined an important advance that we could have had in the field. .

In any case, we were greatly surprised by this conclusion provided by the former ufologist. Not wanting to be taken as "cranks" or "nuts", we simply decided to keep it to ourselves, as a kind of secret. We showed this video privately to open-minded friends and family, but not to the public. Indeed, as it is the case for most witnesses of unexplained phenomena, I was also afraid that if I presented this video to the public, people would end up laughing at us. .

(2/3) Publication of the video .

In October 2008, about 17 years after the photos first appeared in my life, I finally decided to take a chance and find the answer to this mystery. Not being equipped with video transfer devices to convert the VHS of the E.B.E. photos into a digital file, I had to shoot this video with my digital camera/video, capturing the VHS version from my tube TV screen. .

I then put it online, on the Internet, thanks to the video broadcasting site "YouTube". Thanks to this formula, everyone can now remain anonymous and, by avoiding the judgment of others, can present their testimonies or discoveries in all peace of mind. .

To attract attention and facilitate the search by keywords, I first titled it as follows: "Vrai corps d'un extraterrestre au Quebec 1992", and then like this: "Decouverte d'un corps ''extraterrestre'' gris / Discovery ''Alien'' short grey corps Quebec 1992". .

The broadcasting of this video immediately had a snowball effect on the Internet. And a large number of ufology sites discussed it passionately. .

The disinterest of the investigators .

To help witnesses come forward or investigators can also express interest, I have left the email address [etrangesvideos@yahoo.ca](mailto:etrangesvideos@yahoo.ca) at the bottom of the YouTube video description. .

Strangely, at the beginning, when the video was published, only one Quebec investigator came forward: a certain Mr. Morin from Ovni Québec. He published the details of the case on his website, where I used the pseudonym of "Mr. R".

In December 2008, a journalist from a regional newspaper in Red River (in L'Annonciation) wrote an article about the video. We then communicated with each other by email, in order to keep in touch in case witnesses in the photos came forward. .

In January 2009, I tried to approach another investigator, but this one, whom I will not name here so as not to damage his reputation, declined any investigation, the main reason being that the only evidence I had was the VHS. .

In 2013, I received an email from a Mr. Garcia, from Mexico, working for a TV show called "Third Millennium". The latter wanted an interview on Skipe, something I immediately declined, given the anonymity I wanted to maintain. .

Then I put this matter aside, not checking my emails again, until January 2016. And then I found that a certain Mr. Vadnais from the GARPAN ufology group had left a message dated April 2014. The latter had kindly invited me to contact him - something I put on hold, given the late date and my disinterest in the matter. .

(3/3) An enduring mystery .

As of January 2016, the original 2008 video had reached over 430,000 viewers. And with the other versions (copies) spread all over the Internet, it would have reached approximately in the millions of visitors - which is not nothing. .

On January 15, 2016, on YouTube, a person with the username "newbeat2012" posted an investigative and analytical video entitled "Authentic Alien Grey EBE Footage Analyzed Quebec - 1992". The user in question also translated my descriptive text into English. The video surprisingly showed physiognomic details of the body of the E.B.E. found in Red River, revealing various observations that cast doubt on the hypothesis that it was a simple dummy. .

The anatomical details of the E.B.E. were revealed to be very similar to those of a human being. We can see, among other things, the impressive details of the eyes, the neck and especially the sternocleidomastoid muscle. The deltoid muscles (shoulders) and the coraco-brachial muscle are defined with amazing details. The leg muscles and other such details leave no doubt as to the biological quality of the E.B.E. Moreover, the analysis shows that the texture and color of the skin show evidence of exposure to cold, as well as the possibility that there was some kind of mummification by bandaging the body, which explains another visible feature of the body texture. .

In all this, one could be led to believe that it is a human corpse. However, the fact that the E.B.E. does not seem to have any apparent sexual or genital organs - not demonstrating, at the same time, that it is a male or a female - leads us to doubt that it is a human being. Other important details, such as the length of the arms and fingers, reinforce the doubt in this sense. It thus remains only the "down to earth" hypothesis of a kind of mutant coming straight out of a genetic experiment in laboratory. In short, it was an excellent work of investigation. .

The Dark Web ? .

And then, as if by magic, a new video about the Red River E.B.E. caught the interest of ufology enthusiasts on November 6, 2017. It was said that a video had just been discovered on the "Dark Web" and that it was the proof of the capture of an extraterrestrial in Switzerland, in the Eiger: an individualized summit in the Bernese Alps. .

It had all the ingredients to attract attention and more importantly to make a money grab (clicks) on a video. My former roommate turned ufology investigator and I anonymously tried to redirect articles about this new video to the original video. .

The detractors .

Of course, as soon as the video was released, the detractors immediately jumped at the opportunity to mock it. As we know, there are far too many critics of unexplained phenomena. And these critics are often armed with eminent diplomas, so that people will be inclined to believe only them, preferring to ridicule honest witnesses, and this, in order to feed their ego and, as a result, to sleep better at night. Indeed, as Christian Robert Page, a well-known investigative journalist in Quebec, said when he was talking about a case concerning a UFO that flew over downtown Montreal in 1990, in his book Dossiers Mystères 1: "In similar cases, the media too easily accept the so-called explanations of experts who often know nothing about the case, but who justify their intervention in the name of their degree(s)" (p. 231). .

The existence of the E.B.E. .

Before the 2016 analysis, every time I watched this video, I thought about the multiple possibilities explaining the scene in question: Is this just a mannequin? In the early 90s, was it expensive to make such a well-defined mannequin? Could it be something theatrical, made up to impress the gallery? Could it be a failed hoax? .

In any case, I was also wondering if, in the period from 1990 to 1992, there were UFO witnesses in the area? Moreover, would there be by chance a link with the UFO observed above Place Bonaventure, in Montreal, for more than three hours, on the evening of November 7, 1990? .

When one takes the time to search on the Internet for a face that resembles the Red River E.B.E., one finds almost the exact copy of his face on the cover of the novel "E.B.E. Red Alert" by the famous French ufologist Jimmy Guieu (1926-2000), released two years earlier, in 1990. .

This novel is based on a framework of dramatic events, recorded by a network of informants based mainly in the United States. The image of the E.B.E. in question on the cover of the book is said to be a composite of various testimonies. .

So here it is, an investigative book about the Red River mystery is currently being written.

Post from user Johne1618 at UFObelievers at reddit.

Posted On: April 27, 2023

The following video purportedly shows an alien corpse discovered in Quebec in 1992.

At 0:43 it looks like an EBE "bandaged" in a manner described in the Guy Hottel memo.

Is this genuine? If it were a hoax I would not expect the faces of the people involved to be so clearly visible.

Here is an English translation of the French text in the YouTube comments:.

(1/3) Text updated by survey progress on March 20, 2020 .

In the winter of 1992, while I was living in Montreal (Quebec/Canada), a friend of my ex-roommate came to our apartment to show us some strange pictures. The pictures showed that a creature of unknown origin - an extraterrestrial biological entity (E.B.E.), and apparently lifeless, had been found by a snowmobiler (or maybe two) in a field or a woodland not far from the road. .

We immediately asked this friend where he got the pictures. He told us that they belonged to his cousin in the Red River area, in L'Annonciation, Quebec. .

Then, if I remember correctly, he told us that when the body was found in the snow, the snowmobiler (or one of the snowmobilers) went to get his camera (possibly a 35 mm). Note here that if there were two snowmobilers, by the absence of one of them on the photos, we have no proof of his presence; unless he remained the only photographer. .

However, other witnesses, obviously the two men (both smokers) that can be seen in the photos, also went to the discovery site with a car. .

Showing us one of the photos in particular, the friend in question had explained to us that the witnesses had to pass a cable or a rope under the arms of the biological entity, so that, with the help of a branch, they could lift it without touching it. It was possibly by precaution not to leave their prints or by fear of disease. We could suppose here that it had perhaps to give off a certain odor, considering that it does not look completely frozen. From the photos, the cable or rope had obviously been attached to trees. .

Intrigued, we immediately asked him what they did with the body? And he explained to us that "being late in the evening - and probably unaware of the importance of the matter - the witnesses did not dare to take the body back with them, and when they returned the next day, it was gone. The witnesses therefore assumed that a coyote or other wild animal had probably found the body and brought it with it to feast on. On the face of it, this is questionable, but above all, irresponsible behavior. Considering that this kind of monumental error is often observed among non-scientists, it was not too surprising. .

Afterwards, we asked him what he was going to do with these photos? And he answered that he was going to try to meet someone in the field of ufology, in order to try to solve this mystery. Anyway, before he left, I quickly grabbed my video camera and filmed one by one the pictures in question. .

A story in suspension .

A few weeks later, this friend called us back and told us that he had gone to show the photos to a person in the field of ufology - if my memory is correct, it was a certain Claude Mac Duff (1946-2001), author of the book "Le procès des soucoupe volantes" (éditions Québec/Amérique, 1975). The latter simply told him that it was not the first time that he had seen photos of this kind of entity, and that he therefore advised him not to try to make money with this story, or to waste time broadcasting it to the public, because he would certainly be discredited and ridiculed. It must be said here, incidentally, that during the investigation I learned that in the face of the obvious absence of satisfactory proof of the materiality of UFOs and extraterrestrial life, in the early 1980s, Mac Duff had joined the Quebec Skeptics, in which he collaborated for the rest of his life. It is therefore not surprising that his conclusion was not preceded by an investigation of the witnesses of the time. It is a pity, because it ruined an important advance that we could have had in the field. .

In any case, we were greatly surprised by this conclusion provided by the former ufologist. Not wanting to be taken as "cranks" or "nuts", we simply decided to keep it to ourselves, as a kind of secret. We showed this video privately to open-minded friends and family, but not to the public. Indeed, as it is the case for most witnesses of unexplained phenomena, I was also afraid that if I presented this video to the public, people would end up laughing at us. .

(2/3) Publication of the video .

In October 2008, about 17 years after the photos first appeared in my life, I finally decided to take a chance and find the answer to this mystery. Not being equipped with video transfer devices to convert the VHS of the E.B.E. photos into a digital file, I had to shoot this video with my digital camera/video, capturing the VHS version from my tube TV screen. .

I then put it online, on the Internet, thanks to the video broadcasting site "YouTube". Thanks to this formula, everyone can now remain anonymous and, by avoiding the judgment of others, can present their testimonies or discoveries in all peace of mind. .

To attract attention and facilitate the search by keywords, I first titled it as follows: "Vrai corps d'un extraterrestre au Quebec 1992", and then like this: "Decouverte d'un corps ''extraterrestre'' gris / Discovery ''Alien'' short grey corps Quebec 1992". .

The broadcasting of this video immediately had a snowball effect on the Internet. And a large number of ufology sites discussed it passionately. .

The disinterest of the investigators .

To help witnesses come forward or investigators can also express interest, I have left the email address [etrangesvideos@yahoo.ca](mailto:etrangesvideos@yahoo.ca) at the bottom of the YouTube video description. .

Strangely, at the beginning, when the video was published, only one Quebec investigator came forward: a certain Mr. Morin from Ovni Québec. He published the details of the case on his website, where I used the pseudonym of "Mr. R".

In December 2008, a journalist from a regional newspaper in Red River (in L'Annonciation) wrote an article about the video. We then communicated with each other by email, in order to keep in touch in case witnesses in the photos came forward. .

In January 2009, I tried to approach another investigator, but this one, whom I will not name here so as not to damage his reputation, declined any investigation, the main reason being that the only evidence I had was the VHS. .

In 2013, I received an email from a Mr. Garcia, from Mexico, working for a TV show called "Third Millennium". The latter wanted an interview on Skipe, something I immediately declined, given the anonymity I wanted to maintain. .

Then I put this matter aside, not checking my emails again, until January 2016. And then I found that a certain Mr. Vadnais from the GARPAN ufology group had left a message dated April 2014. The latter had kindly invited me to contact him - something I put on hold, given the late date and my disinterest in the matter. .

(3/3) An enduring mystery .

As of January 2016, the original 2008 video had reached over 430,000 viewers. And with the other versions (copies) spread all over the Internet, it would have reached approximately in the millions of visitors - which is not nothing. .

On January 15, 2016, on YouTube, a person with the username "newbeat2012" posted an investigative and analytical video entitled "Authentic Alien Grey EBE Footage Analyzed Quebec - 1992". The user in question also translated my descriptive text into English. The video surprisingly showed physiognomic details of the body of the E.B.E. found in Red River, revealing various observations that cast doubt on the hypothesis that it was a simple dummy. .

The anatomical details of the E.B.E. were revealed to be very similar to those of a human being. We can see, among other things, the impressive details of the eyes, the neck and especially the sternocleidomastoid muscle. The deltoid muscles (shoulders) and the coraco-brachial muscle are defined with amazing details. The leg muscles and other such details leave no doubt as to the biological quality of the E.B.E. Moreover, the analysis shows that the texture and color of the skin show evidence of exposure to cold, as well as the possibility that there was some kind of mummification by bandaging the body, which explains another visible feature of the body texture. .

In all this, one could be led to believe that it is a human corpse. However, the fact that the E.B.E. does not seem to have any apparent sexual or genital organs - not demonstrating, at the same time, that it is a male or a female - leads us to doubt that it is a human being. Other important details, such as the length of the arms and fingers, reinforce the doubt in this sense. It thus remains only the "down to earth" hypothesis of a kind of mutant coming straight out of a genetic experiment in laboratory. In short, it was an excellent work of investigation. .

The Dark Web ? .

And then, as if by magic, a new video about the Red River E.B.E. caught the interest of ufology enthusiasts on November 6, 2017. It was said that a video had just been discovered on the "Dark Web" and that it was the proof of the capture of an extraterrestrial in Switzerland, in the Eiger: an individualized summit in the Bernese Alps. .

It had all the ingredients to attract attention and more importantly to make a money grab (clicks) on a video. My former roommate turned ufology investigator and I anonymously tried to redirect articles about this new video to the original video. .

The detractors .

Of course, as soon as the video was released, the detractors immediately jumped at the opportunity to mock it. As we know, there are far too many critics of unexplained phenomena. And these critics are often armed with eminent diplomas, so that people will be inclined to believe only them, preferring to ridicule honest witnesses, and this, in order to feed their ego and, as a result, to sleep better at night. Indeed, as Christian Robert Page, a well-known investigative journalist in Quebec, said when he was talking about a case concerning a UFO that flew over downtown Montreal in 1990, in his book Dossiers Mystères 1: "In similar cases, the media too easily accept the so-called explanations of experts who often know nothing about the case, but who justify their intervention in the name of their degree(s)" (p. 231). .

The existence of the E.B.E. .

Before the 2016 analysis, every time I watched this video, I thought about the multiple possibilities explaining the scene in question: Is this just a mannequin? In the early 90s, was it expensive to make such a well-defined mannequin? Could it be something theatrical, made up to impress the gallery? Could it be a failed hoax? .

In any case, I was also wondering if, in the period from 1990 to 1992, there were UFO witnesses in the area? Moreover, would there be by chance a link with the UFO observed above Place Bonaventure, in Montreal, for more than three hours, on the evening of November 7, 1990? .

When one takes the time to search on the Internet for a face that resembles the Red River E.B.E., one finds almost the exact copy of his face on the cover of the novel "E.B.E. Red Alert" by the famous French ufologist Jimmy Guieu (1926-2000), released two years earlier, in 1990. .

This novel is based on a framework of dramatic events, recorded by a network of informants based mainly in the United States. The image of the E.B.E. in question on the cover of the book is said to be a composite of various testimonies. .

So here it is, an investigative book about the Red River mystery is currently being written.

Post from user Johne1618 at UFObelievers at reddit.