Posted On: November 23, 2023

I feel like I should start this off by saying I'm fairly skeptical on the whole UFO/UAP/NHI/whatever-3-letter-acronym-thing.

I discovered it during the NYT stuff and now I check in every once in a while, but I am intrigued with the recent Grusch stuff, although I'm not sure how I feel about him yet, he has some very bold claims.

TLDR at the bottom.

ANYWAY, I recently finished reading Contact by Carl Sagan.

If you've read the book, or seen the movie, you may recall that the quick-and-dirty premise is: Alien send beep-boop signal to people, beep-boop force all of people to work together to understand.

Turns out beep-boop is an Ikea instruction manual for a wormhole supertech joyride that requires all of humanity working together to build in order to meet the Alien because of the distance.

I think a few other things might happen, no way to be sure.

It hit me that this premise has some interesting similarities to some of Grusch and others claims.

So if you made it this far, here's my What If:.

You're an Alien.

You've either found or developed a life bearing, or capable of, planet.

Relative to us, this is hundreds, thousands, or who-the-fuck-knows many years ago depending on who's claiming what.

From what we understand about physics, you had an extremely slow, likely one way trip, with the added bonus of no way to contact "home" in any useful timeframe.

OR you have technology that makes us rethink our physics and knowledge of the universe and suddenly the distance and/or time doesn't mean as much to you.

Now class, which one is the one that everyone seems to be talking about? .

So you're likely unfathomably intelligent, ancient, alien.

You've got this world in your sphere, somehow, that you may or may not have mingled with, that you watch and view the local residents.

Eventually you're interested enough to see if they're worth more than a viewing, so you, Contact..them.

You decide to send them a message.

But you're already close by, so instead of the blueprints for a piece of your puzzle you just send a piece, see if they can figure it out, if they're worth more.

You know we're just monkeys and we're going to need more than one piece of technology to figure out how it works, and that it's going to take more than one silly arbitrary division of us.

So one way or another potentially up to double digits of these "pieces" end up in our hands.

Maybe with some contact or examples of what you are, maybe not.

Again, depending on who says what.

Well what comes next?.

Sagan imagined it would take the effort of the entire species to figure it out and see where the technology took us.

But maybe we just abuse it for war, destroy ourselves and you shrug your flaps and move on.

TLDR: What if we have these craft on purpose with the goal of seeing if we figure it out together or blow ourselves up with it.

Post from user whosthestink at at reddit.

Posted On: November 23, 2023

I feel like I should start this off by saying I'm fairly skeptical on the whole UFO/UAP/NHI/whatever-3-letter-acronym-thing.

I discovered it during the NYT stuff and now I check in every once in a while, but I am intrigued with the recent Grusch stuff, although I'm not sure how I feel about him yet, he has some very bold claims.

TLDR at the bottom.

ANYWAY, I recently finished reading Contact by Carl Sagan.

If you've read the book, or seen the movie, you may recall that the quick-and-dirty premise is: Alien send beep-boop signal to people, beep-boop force all of people to work together to understand.

Turns out beep-boop is an Ikea instruction manual for a wormhole supertech joyride that requires all of humanity working together to build in order to meet the Alien because of the distance.

I think a few other things might happen, no way to be sure.

It hit me that this premise has some interesting similarities to some of Grusch and others claims.

So if you made it this far, here's my What If:.

You're an Alien.

You've either found or developed a life bearing, or capable of, planet.

Relative to us, this is hundreds, thousands, or who-the-fuck-knows many years ago depending on who's claiming what.

From what we understand about physics, you had an extremely slow, likely one way trip, with the added bonus of no way to contact "home" in any useful timeframe.

OR you have technology that makes us rethink our physics and knowledge of the universe and suddenly the distance and/or time doesn't mean as much to you.

Now class, which one is the one that everyone seems to be talking about? .

So you're likely unfathomably intelligent, ancient, alien.

You've got this world in your sphere, somehow, that you may or may not have mingled with, that you watch and view the local residents.

Eventually you're interested enough to see if they're worth more than a viewing, so you, Contact..them.

You decide to send them a message.

But you're already close by, so instead of the blueprints for a piece of your puzzle you just send a piece, see if they can figure it out, if they're worth more.

You know we're just monkeys and we're going to need more than one piece of technology to figure out how it works, and that it's going to take more than one silly arbitrary division of us.

So one way or another potentially up to double digits of these "pieces" end up in our hands.

Maybe with some contact or examples of what you are, maybe not.

Again, depending on who says what.

Well what comes next?.

Sagan imagined it would take the effort of the entire species to figure it out and see where the technology took us.

But maybe we just abuse it for war, destroy ourselves and you shrug your flaps and move on.

TLDR: What if we have these craft on purpose with the goal of seeing if we figure it out together or blow ourselves up with it.

Post from user whosthestink at at reddit.